Red Bull's RB19 started off the 2023 F1 season as the clear car to beat. With such a strong gap between Red Bull and the rest of the pack, clearly they've done something, or many things, very right. From suspension to vehicle dynamics, floors and grounding and even the team behind the car, Jon Noble is joined by our F1 tech experts Jake Boxall-Legge and Matt Somerfield to find out why the RB19 is such a dominant F1 car.
0:00 Red Bull's Overall Package
1:25 RB19's Rear Wing Power
4:06 The Stable Ride
5:44 Suspension Tech
9:09 Front Suspension Development
10:51 Rake and Ride Height
13.23 Other Teams' Woes
14:52 No Silver Bullet
16:01 2023 Development
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When you mention the problem of bouncing or 'porpoising' that some teams, and particularly the Mercedes were experiencing when the current regulations first came into effect. My belief was that the main cause of this porpoising was because as the downforce generated built up it had the effect of 'sucking' the cars towards the ground. But this was leading to the floor of the car coming into contact with the ground, which immediately 'bled' away the downforce and 'ground effect' causing the car to rise again. Then the airflow under the car would begin to be re-energised, sucking the car towards the ground once more. This continual 'gaining and then losing' of downforce caused by the car touching the ground caused a kind of continuous vertical oscillation which became known as 'porpoising'.
To try and counteract this without having to significantly raise the ride height the teams were forced to run the cars increasingly stiffer.
But i am in no way an expert on the matter. This was just what I was initially understood to believe.
I'd be extremely grateful if you could elaborate on this for me and explain it in more detail.
@tomsilver8241 Says:
Of course red bull have again begun giving verstapen the faster car compared to Perez as proven in studies of the graph tracings of both cars and top speed differential analysis. red bull can and do easily hide from the sheeple these facts so they can continue to say both get equal cars. Perez in his contract cannot criticize the car so doesn't. 2023 as in 2022 when Perez began winning, all of a sudden strange things began to happen to his car and performance. It is crystal clear now that red bull is just a corrupt team and happily corrupt at that. Perez should leave the team as soon as possible if he wants to be able to display his ability in a true way unencumbered by sabotage .
@_004Bz Says:
Suspension is semi the key, you also need a sidepod to support the concept. I say this because Aston Martin are using a very similar concept and are achieving great results. Idk shit. But if I had to guess, the concept starts with the front suspension. The geometry allows the front of the car to stay at a stable height through corners and that allows for a constant flow rate into the tunnel entrance. A lot of teams can’t do this without sacrificing on setup. That’s why they even have rake on the RB. If you watch the car go thru a corner in slomo you can see the tunnel entrance is so stable but the rear can dance. Not too much but it can because there’s a constant flow rate. And once that’s figured out, you use the sidepods to or chassis to support the floor from porpoising. And the top of the body to feed clean air to the back of the car.
@netgenrb Says:
It was quite a surprize to me that no one copied the front suspension concept for 23 when they were doing this years car.
@sukocoimam4519 Says:
I do assume, like no other team .. from 1st concept Red Bull floor design to stall above 250-270 km ++ (air flow detach from under body and create stall), with certain shape of curve we can simulated in certain pressure and enviroment created on purposed stall
So they not have big porposing problem n higher top speed when floor n wing stall together (no need high down force no straight) but this is start from collecting data for all circuit to determine sweet spot to stall under floor... And with 2nd year data gathering I do think they have mastered when you want laminar, turbulent or stall on design floor
@oldschool8330 Says:
Makes me wonder why they couldn’t reduce the aero dependence further for the new regs (and therefore less turbulent air for following car) and allow for more freedom on the suspension development to offset the loss of grip.
@Jay-nk6dm Says:
in the previous era, mercedes were by far and away the best suspension team. They had FRIC and the rear suspenson innovation, as well as the squat dynamic at high speeds. They had the most experience with the tools, but then those tools wer all banned in 2022. theyll be back
@alycheah4858 Says:
About the DRS of Red bull, I believe they all forget the problems they had last years with the DRS . And Max made that very clear to the team, I believe that everything worked for good. they really put a lot of afford to make sure this season they would have not a repeat of that .
@Chip_in Says:
You know way back in preseason testing and everybody says "RB looking fast, they will probably dominate again this season"
But then you hear the 'ol trusty "You can't look at these results because it's preseason"
...So when do we concede and say "Ok you are right RB dominate another season"...Leaning towards calling it over early...sigh...
#MakeMcLarenFastAgain!
#LongSufferingPaPayaFanFoLife!
#ZakBrownOut!
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@raymonschepers994 Says:
So weird that the most British media are extremely positive about who Adrian Newey is (and let’s be honest, the man is a living legend and a real genius in engineering F1 cars. And he probably can develop way more than just that technology only.)
He is the only engineer that prevented the car from excessive porpoising and he is also the only one with significant education and 30 years experience in ground effect technology.
And yes, the RB19 is going so great on his behalf and supervision plus the driving skills and feedback from Max Verstappen.
But a funny thing is that most of the same British media keeps Max Verstappen out of the occasion deliberately. And what the reason is for doing so is 100% clear to me.
Not worth mentioning as a Dutchman myself, but i am also aware of the fact that Max Verstappen doesn’t have the status of sir Lewis Hamilton. These suggestions are nothing less than (not only) my opinion.
Well the RB19 is a gem of a machine, a certain Sergio Perez isn’t extracting the same level of performance out of the car like his teammate does.
Please don’t underestimate the talent of the young Dutchman and i won’t try and do the opposite by overestimate him.
What i really want to say about it is that the whole package is a complete team effort and we are absolutely privileged to witness the situation with multiple teams performing at the very upper level. Take notice of what’s happening at Aston Martin too, nothing short of magic is happening over there as well.
It’s not an easy task to get it right when developing a F1 car by the current regulations. As well as driving one isn’t exactly a walk in the park with your eyes closed 😅
@marktate6051 Says:
Great insight, thanks
@icg2412 Says:
Redbull has the fewest time in wind tunnel testing but the least drag in formula 1, that’s how great this team is.
@ankurmittalrcv93mittal14 Says:
You imagine if their was not bidget cap in 2021 season redbull would have made better car than 2020 and also because of covid but nevertheless they put their time and effort after that in 2022 which basically giving fruits for 2023😅
@richardpatton2502 Says:
As soon as you started talking about aerodynamics I was expecting to start bashing you guys.
Because I’m so used to F1 “tech talks” with pseudo experts that not only have the slightest idea how aerodynamics work but they actually think they do…which is worse. The “air hits that and then goes there” kind of talk.
You guys know your stuff. It’s all about pressure differentials. And how those create lift or downforce and how they can stall and at what ram air speeds.
Basically the Bernoulli effect, the Venturi effect and a few other nuances
So it goes without saying you guys have a new subscriber and fan.
Keep it up. As F1 grows in popularity more people want to understand the science of how it all works.
Just a small remark, the bouncing of the cars is also caused by something aviation knows and study for decades. It’s called wing flutter. This is an opinion shared by most engineers who actually worked with ground effect cars back in the day. Videos of their explanations available on YouTube.
I think Red Bull is the only one who took that into account. Not only with the suspension set up but also with the material construction of their heavy aerodynamic load components. Different loads in the same surface at the same time and how they shift around. But this is just an opinion.
All the best to you guys.
And everyone else
@Al3xisAE Says:
Anti squat and anti dive, more consistent underfloor aero means they need less downforce from the wings etc
@nnt8584 Says:
Ps5 and VR kit. Dude plays GT7. Love it
@jtocher685 Says:
Q: Why is the DRS so effecive on the Red Bull? Ans: Because it's a good and integrated design.
Q. Why is the aero so good? Ans: Because it's a good and integrated design.
Q. Why is the suspension so good? Ans: It's a good and integrated design.
Q. Why did Red Bull change their suspension design? Ans: Because their last one was not well designed and integrated.
Q. Why did they go from a high rake to a low rake design? Ans: I don't know but I'll say some mumbo-jumbo and that they wanted the underbody design to be good and integrated.
Q. Is it true that a good and integrated design is a good idea? Ans: I don't know - we'll have to see how the rest of the year goes.
Thanks for the amazing insight guys.
@GFSCN69 Says:
I must have seen 20-30 videos on why the RB is the fastest so far this season from the 3 F1 channels I'm subscribed to.
There is such a thing as too much.
@samwiseganja4071 Says:
Interesting point about the rate of change of downforce through a corner rather than peak downforce never thought about that
@fam.hunger5244 Says:
Adrian Newey already said last year that he worked more on the suspension than on anything else. So it's not this year that that's being said. It's already 2022, and it was Newey who admitted that himself.
And no - there is no silver bullet! Like the cars of Rory Byrne, from whom Newey has copied a lot again and again (e.g. the one-piece suspension arm - invented by Rory Byrne on the F2001, or the blown exhaust of the 2010 Red Bull - Rory Byrne's original design of the exhaust for the 1998 F300, only unfortunately the carbon was more temperature-sensitive at that time or there was no such effective heat protection). The F2001, F2002 or F2004 - three of the most dominant cars in F1, there was no silver bullet. These cars were just perfectly thought out and every single part perfected in every detail. If I am better than the competition in 1000 details, what I put on the track is simply a second faster. Because I am 1000 times 0.001 second better.
@Chyeahokay Says:
So they can run less downforce to be faster on straights, but because of the extreme anti dive, the floor doesn’t dump any downforce in corners, making them super fast in corners as well....
@Tjescoo Says:
@13:53
So where does this information of "thousands of people at Red Bull HQ" come from? Maybe learn about facts first before you're going to throw them out or are you some kind of gossip magazine?
@pifive Says:
All F1 teams are playing checkers.... Redbull F1 team is playing Chess ....
@WRXMAN-ms2mm Says:
Successful engineering requires a thoroughly sound concept. That concept incorporates foundational and critical development paths. Once the concept is settled on the hard work of the talented engineers to bring it to life begins. These engineers are a bright bunch as well.
Newey is clearly from all reporters the car concept guru. From his vision of the critical car aspects the table is set.
But of course without talented machinists and mechanics the whole thing is just an intellectual exercise.
Last thing it is somewhat ironic that the nerdy math geeks from school make the dreams of F1 race car athletes and their millions of fans possible.
Engineering is the practical application of math and physics that makes our modern world a technological wonder.
@leishembayengkhom33 Says:
I'm just here for the insight of the people that know more about cars.
@robh9577 Says:
The RB upper control arm in the front tell you the whole story. The anti dive makes the suspension think it has a huge spring in it under braking to keep the floor entry/front ride height consistent. This also makes it unusually easy to lock a wheel as theres isn't much weight transfer, which was checo's issue in Australia. You can't drive it in deep, and the tires don't warm up very fast, which is why they qualy not so good but drive off into the distance during the race.
@zattanna74 Says:
if F1 really wanted to have closer racing, then stop changing regs its very simple, you get 2021 and bam reset back to the old cycle again utter fools, they should just cancel the 2026 regs right now and let these car run until 2030 at the earliest by then within 3 years all tams should be closer than they are now.
@pilotozetec Says:
Lower, lighter, less drag, super DRS and the best ERS system in the field. There is much more performance in the car.
@Max-hy9ud Says:
Its pretty simple. These floors need minimal movement from the car under breaking and acceleration to keep constant airflow. So you need some proper anti dive in the corner and antisquad out the corner from the suspension.
@kevindavis8143 Says:
With the ground effects, do you have to have a rear wing? Can you get by with just the beam wings and floor at some tracks?
@stonecold91 Says:
The two teams who were caught overspending are 1st and 2nd. The sport is clearly in a bad situation.
@Mcrochev1994 Says:
None of this stuff is actual insight on why RB is good. Just rehashed verbiage that we know already
@danielvaega Says:
Outstanding what *_RB_* are doing. That rear wing is the stuff of wet dreams 😇
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